Pe scurt:
-zona prăbuşirii avionului este mai jos cu câteva zeci de metri decât aeroportul care se găseşte pe un fel de platou; surse poloneze susţin că pilotul a avut probleme cu altimetrul şi cu indicatorul de viteză a vântului;
-trei băieţi ruşi susţin că au auzit şi văzut o explozie înaintea prăbuşirii;
-un parlamentar polonez care a ajuns la Katyn cu trenul susţine că
"cerul era albastru deasupra Katyn-ului" la ora 11:00, când s-a prăbuşit
avionul (la o distanţă de cca 15 km faţă de Katyn, cam întinderea
Bucureştiului);
-premierul polonez Tusk luase decizia devalorizării zlotului, aparent
fără consultare cu "eurozona" (Polonia a suferit cel mai puţin în urma
crizei dintre statele UE non-euro, mai ales datorită stabilităţii
zlotului);
-cel puţin cinci miniştri aflaţi în avion (din partidul liberal al lui Tusk) erau
investigaţi pe probleme de corupţie;
-în 1943, generalul polonez Sikorski (reprezentantul guvernului
polonez în exil) moare "oportun" într-o prăbuşire de avion în Gibraltar,
nemaiparticipând la foarte importantul summit aliat de la Teheran;
-un avion ticsit cu ziarişti a aterizat făra probleme pe aeroport după
40 de minute;
-într-un clip video (mai jos, la sfârşitul postării), se aud patru
focuri de armă în zona epavei avionului, în pădure, când filmau
cameramanii; pe siteul The Jawa Report se susţine că ar fi
focuri de avertisment ale Miliţiei, trase în aer ca să nu se apropie
curioşii;
-Vladimir Jirinovski, vicepreşedintele Dumei de Stat a Rusiei, cere ca Rusia
să îşi asume responsabilitatea prăbuşirii avionului;
-Conspiraţionistul Henry Makow susţine ipoteza
unei lovituri de stat poloneză, efectuată cu sprijin internaţional;
ipoteza lui Makow are elemente de senzaţionalism (cadavrele ar fi fost
aduse ulterior, etc...);
-reconstituirea (prin animaţie) a prăbuşirii, de catre polonezi - link
-blogul italian Informazione Scorretta face referire la caz (paragraful Lo strano caso polacco) - link
POLAND’S SUSPICIOUS SECOND KATYN MASSACRE TRAGEDY
25-YEAR-OLD TUPOLEV HAD BEEN ‘OVERHAULED’ IN RUSSIA MONTHS EARLIER
Sunday 11 April 2010 00:30
• UPDATE: OUR SUSPICIONS ARE YET FURTHER
STRENGTHENED:
Since we posted this report, we have learned as follows:
(1): President Mikheil Saakashvili of Georgia has stated on a CNN
interview that quote 'something incredibly evil was involved here'
without elaborating or explaining what he was implying. The interview
can be seen at this link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycj2CCkDx3s
(2): A close examination of the precise terrain WEST of the
Smolensk-Severnyi military airport reveals that for an extended area,
the terrain is DISTINCTLY LOWER than the airport itself, which is
situated on a sort of plateau. The area to the WEST of the military
airport is between 100 and 150 feet BELOW the plateau. In THAT case, the
plane COULD NOT HAVE SCRAPED THE TOPS OF TREES, unless the trees were
about 400 feet high.
(3): The investigation is being carried out under the supervision of
Prime Minister Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, a senior GRU (Soviet
Military Intelligence) Officer. Since any preplanned sabotage would
precisely have been organised by the GRU, the investigation has of
course been placed in the hands of the perpetrators, which is standard
practice in these cover-up operations, in both the covert Soviet Union
and the United States: in case you didn't know.
(4): An article in The Guardian cites a Polish MP who attended the
memorial gathering in the Katyn forests, having travelled there by
train, who claims that at the time of the alleged 'accident', which
occurred just before 11:00 a.m., there were blue skies* over Katyn,
which is located about ten miles from the crash site. The Polish MP's
remark is found at the end of the article: here's the link:
• See also the following article in the
Daily Mail:
(5): We have had one violently indignant reaction from a Pole who
protests too much. Without attaching overmuch importance to this, we
suggest that it may imply NERVOUSNESS THAT THE COVER-UP 'LINE' IS FULL
OF HOLES. It's news to us that trees grow 400 feet tall in that region.
(6): An Italian source, informazionescorretta.blogspot.com, reported on
14th April as follows:
• Three Russian boys heard and saw an
explosion before the crash.
• Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk had
already decided to devalue to zloty, contrary to the unwritten and
arrogant rule that currencies adjacent to the Eurozone and in
competition with the Euro cannot be devalued without the kind permission
of Berlin, Paris and Frankfurt.
• At least five of the Polish Ministers who
were killed were being investigated for corruption.
• The Military chiefs on the aircraft were
mainly overt Communist-era holdovers. They were resisting international
pressures and were about to be compelled to resign.
• An aircraft crammed with Polish
journalists landed just 40 minutes after the crash, and went straight to
Katyn, as though nothing had happened.
(7): The pilot is reported by Polish sources to have been struggling
with defective altimeter and airspeed indicators. There are reports that
radar revealed that the plane was only 10 metres off the ground, which
is inconsistent with the treetop story. It should be noted that a
favourite DVD crash stratagem is to fiddle PRECISELY with the altimeter
and speed indicators. This is in fact a known hallmark of a DVD
OPERATION, raising suspicions of collaboration by foreign intelligence
or even of a METABRIDGE OP. (Mossad-CIA-MI-6-DVD), as the Poles had
snubbed the IMF over Greece.
* We had blue skies for days here in Buckinghamshire, so this of course
makes sense.
• AIRCRASH HAS ALL THE HALLMARKS OF A
‘PREPLANNED ACCIDENT’
• THE KEY FIGURES IDENTIFIED AMONG THE
CASUALTIES
• ALL POLAND’S TOP PEOPLE WIPED OUT IN ONE
HIT
• SUSPICIOUS TIMING AND OVERHAUL THE OLD
SOVIET TU-154
• LONG ARM OF RUSSIA’S CLENCHED FIST
DEPLOYED
• NOTE: Because of the Second Katyn
massacre, we initially had to 'interrupt' display of the report entitled
'ALL UK LEGISLATION PASSED SINCE 2000 IS NULL AND VOID', posted on 10th
April 2010. We have now restored that report as the main display, with a
very important UPDATE.
'Seeing what's at the end of one's nose requires constant effort'.
George Orwell.
NEW REPORT STARTS HERE:
AIRCRASH HAS ALL THE HALLMARKS OF A ‘PREPLANNED ACCIDENT’
It is most unlikely that the fatal crash shortly before 11:00 a.m. on
10th April of a Polish Government Tupolev Tu-154 aircraft near the
Smolensk-Severnyi military airport, was an accident. It looked just like
an accident, given that the airplane sliced treetops on its fourth
attempt to land in heavy fog, disintegrating about one mile from the
airport. There had been ‘suggestions’ that the plane should divert to
Minsk. There were no survivors.
The 60-year-old President of Poland, Lech Kaczynski, was leading a
delegation of highest-level Polish officials to attend memorial
ceremonies at Katyn, the site of the massacre of 22,000 Poles by Soviet
terrorist operatives 70 years ago.
As a consequence of that massacre in 1940 et seq., all possible sources
of subsequent resistance to Soviet control in Poland were liquidated in
one operation.
The casualty list of those who perished in the Tupolev Tu-154 crash on
Saturday implies that Polish sources of problems considered to be
intractable by Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin (Shalomov), of Soviet
Military Intelligence (GRU), and Mikhail Sergeyevich Gorbachëv
(KGB-FSB-covert Party) from his administrative wing inside the Kremlin
complex, have likewise been liquidated in what can be considered to be
‘the second Katyn Massacre’.
THE KEY FIGURES IDENTIFIED AMONG THE CASUALTIES
Among the dead were the following:
• Blasik, Andrzej, Chief of the Polish Air
Force.
• Bochenek, Krystyna, Deputy Speaker of the
Polish Senate.
• Chodakowski, Archbishop Miron, Orthodox
Ordinary of the Polish Army.
• Deptula, Leszek, Member of the Sejm
(Lower House of Parliament).
• Dolniak, Grzegorz, Member of the Sejm.
• Fetlinska, Janina, Member of the Polish
Senate.
• Gagor, General Franciszek, Chief of the
Polish Army General Staff.
• Gesicka, Grazyna, Member of the Sejm.
• Gosiewski, Przemyslaw, Member of the
Sejm.
• Handzlik, Mariusz, Undersecretary of
State in President's Office.
• Jaruga-Nowacka, Izabela, Member of the
Sejm.
• Karpiniuk, Sebastian, Member of the Sejm.
• Karweta, Vice Admiral Andrzej,
Commander-in-Chief of the Polish Navy.
• Kaczynski, Lech, President of the
Republic of Poland.
• Kaczynski, Mrs, wife of the President of
the Republic.
• Kochanowski, Janusz, Polish Ombudsman for
Citizen Rights.
• Kremer, Andrzej, Polish Deputy Foreign
Minister.
• Kurtyka, Janusz, Historian and President
of the Institute of National Remembrance.
• Natalli-Swiat, Aleksandra, Member of the
Sejm.
• Nurowski, Piotr, President of the Polish
Olympic Committee.
• Plazynski, Maciej, President of the
Polish Community Association.
• Ploski, Tadeusz, Bishop of the Military
Ordinariate of the Polish Army.
• Przewoznik, Andrzej, Secretary-General,
Council for Protection of Struggle and Martyrdom Sites.
• Putra, Krzysztof, Deputy Speaker of the
Sejm.
• Rumianek, Ryszard, Rector of the Cardinal
Stefan Wyszynski University.
• Rybicki, Arkadiusz, Member of the Sejm.
• Skrzypek, Slawomir, President of the
National Bank of Poland.
• Stasiak, Wladyslaw, Chief of the Office
of the President of the Republic of Poland.
• Szczyglo, Aleksander, Head of the
National Security Bureau.
• Szmajdzinski, Jerzy, Deputy Speaker of
the Sejm.
• Szymanek-Deresz, Jolanta, Member of the
Sejm.
• Walentynowicz, Anna, free trade union
activist, member of Solidarity (Solidarity heroine).
• Wassermann, Zbigniew, Member of the Sejm.
• Woda, Wieslaw, Member of the Sejm.
• Wojtas, Edward, Member of the Sejm.
• Wypych, Pawel, Secretary of State in the
Office of the President of the Republic of Poland.
• Zajac, Stanislaw, Member of the Senate
… and several other Members of the Sejm.
ALL POLAND’S TOP PEOPLE WIPED OUT IN ONE HIT
To recapitulate, Poland lost, in addition to the President of the Polish
Republic and his wife:
• The Chief of the Polish Air Force.
• The Chief of the Polish Army General
Staff.
• The Commander-in-chief of the Polish
Navy.
= ALL THE MILITARY SERVICE CHIEFS.
• The head of Polish Intelligence (National
Security Bureau).
• The three top officials inside the Office
of the President of the Republic.
• The Governor of the National Bank of
Poland.
• The Deputy Foreign Minister of Poland.
SUSPICIOUS TIMING AND OVERHAUL THE OLD SOVIET TU-154
Moreover the timing of this ‘planned accident’ is highly suspicious. For
starters, the 25-year-old aircraft had undergone a complete overhaul at
a factory in southern Russia late last year, being delivered to the
Polish authorities in December 2009.
This makes a planned malfunction likely, especially given that the Katyn
massacre ceremony, to be held 70 years after the atrocity, was of
course ‘known in advance’.
Issues contemporaneous with this catastrophe include:
• Most conspicuously, the peak level of
intergovernmental tensions surrounding the disposition and settlement of
diverted and stolen funds, given not least that Poland was exploited
during the Bush II Administration, when the US Ambassador to Poland was a
known George W. Bush crony (to go into no further details here) and
Polish institutions were flooded with the proceeds of illicit
off-balance sheet trades leveraged off diverted and stolen funds.
• The projected use of the Polish Army’s
Ustka-Wicko base as a possible site for US missile interceptors. Russia
objected strongly and suspended participation in the Treaty on
Conventional Armed Forces in Europe.
• Contracts for Western aircraft.
LONG ARM OF RUSSIA’S CLENCHED FIST DEPLOYED
Historically, when Poland tries to align itself with the West, Russia
has deployed the long arm of its clenched fist – starting with the
Katyn massacre of thousands of Polish officers and key political
leaders, so that come the Russian occupation, there was minimal
opposition from Poles trying to defend their freedom.
In 1943, Polish General Sikorski’s plane crashed, and the General was
killed, off Gibraltar, around the time of the Tehran Conference that set
the scene for the catastrophic Yalta Conference, which consigned Poland
to Soviet control after the war.
And exiled Polish leaders who returned home after the war were ‘tried’
and executed in the late 1940s and early 1950s by the Soviets and by
their Polish puppet Communist governments.
Similar peculiarities were noted elsewhere in Eastern Europe: for
instance, the Czech President suddenly ‘committed suicide’ in 1948 by
jumping off a balcony immediately ahead of free elections which never
happened.
Now we have the instant liquidation, in one operation, of the Polish
President and his wife, the chiefs of the three Polish military
services, the Polish Intelligence Chief, the three top officials from
the late Polish President’s Office (who knew everything), and the
Governor of the National Bank of Poland – killed in an old Soviet
aircraft which had undergone a ‘complete overhaul’ in a southern Russian
factory only four months earlier.
The German DVD 'Black agency' is known for its expertise in fiddling
with aircraft controls to procure delayed crashes. It is a 'talent'
shared with its secret allies, the covert Soviet GRU-KGB.
Key signatories required for crucial contemporaneous financial
undertakings would of course have been those of the President and the
Governor of the National Bank of Poland.
No wonder the Russian President, Dmitry Medvedev (Menakhem Aaronovich
Mendel’) appointed GRU-Prime Minister Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin
(Shalomov) to head a commission to ‘investigate’ the crash –
despatching the Russian Minister for Emergency Situations, the
well-known ‘former’ Communist apparatchik Sergei Shoigu, to the crash
site.
• Any evidence of pre-planned delayed
sabotage will need to have been identified and removed from the scene
smartish.
* * * * * * * * * * * *
Într-un clip realizat de cameramani la locul prăbuşirii se aud patru
împuşcături:
28 de comentarii :
Avionul prezidenţial polonez a efectuat o singură încercare de aterizare
Încet-încet ne lămurim că e aşa cum bănuiam.
Era evident, dar maşinăria media lătra ca sunt...patru încercări în total, si-l scoteau "nebun" pe Kaczynski !
Şi marmota înveleşte ciocolata, cunoaştem.
Nu ştiu la acest moment de nicio poziţie oficiala a guvernului polonez.
Să vedem ce numiri va face preşedintele interimar Komorowski, din partidul lui Tusk (mareşalul Seim-ului a murit în "accident", el urma la conducere ca interimar - era din partidul SiS al lui Kaczynski).
Atmosfera din clipul de la sfarsit este cumplita.E filmat la cateva minute de la catastrofa, cred
...
Guvernul polonez şi-a manifestat poziţia oficială în momentul în care NU a solicitat o comisie independentă de anchetă.
Da... vorba lui C. Story (şi a lui G. Orwell):
'Seeing what's at the end of one's nose requires constant effort'.
"Împuşcăturile" alea 4 pot fi orice altceva, un recipient care conţine gaz (brichetă etc.) poate exploda foarte uşor atunci când este expus unor temperaturi înalte.
...sau muniţie din armele personalului de securitate din avion (care s-au gasit prin zona epavei), din cauza temperaturii ?!
Sesizasem si eu tampenia asta cu scandarea polonezilor
http://dreapta.net/res_341_Tampenia-lui-Marcin.aspx
Prea puţine, personalul de securitate nu poartă armamentul asupra sa în timpul zborului, toate armele de la bord sunt păstrate într-un rastel securizat.
Are perfectă dreptate autorul articolului, le stau unora în gât conservatorii.
S-au găsit în zona epavei?
Ciudat tare, încalcă toate normele privind securitatea demnitarilor.
S-au găsit. Chiar daca rastelul ar fi fost metalic, cine ştie... Sau poate păstrau "back-up guns"...
SOP la Secret Service (care a "modernizat" instruirea şi pentru polonezi dar şi pentru ai noştri spune clar: Rastel securizat)
...
TRU-pe Blog de europarlamentar
http://www.europalibera.org/content/blog/2014900.html#relatedInfoContainer
Tocmai intrasem (via niku_elektriku, la el apare separat în blogroll, la mine doar REL). :)
Fug la "non-stop", 30 minute.
Of...cat oi fi eu de "conspiratofil"...ceva imi zice sa nu cred toate ipotezele astea. Unele sunt trase de par, altele par plauzibile, dar, totusi...pana nu apare ceva concret nu putem decat sa mergem pe presupozitii.
Ceva e putred in...Moscova si Varsovia. Si chestia cu aducerea cadavrelor mi se pare ca o buba-n cap.
Chiar mi-ai atras atentia...o sa incerc si eu maine sa mai caut prin presa straina sa vad daca pot sa scriu ceva pe blog.
Nu stă în picioare varianta cu aducerea ulterioară a cadavrelor (adică, au fost omorâţi în altă parte, şi pe urmă...), am dat link ca să arăt ce versiuni se mai vehiculează. Ba unele siteuri islamiste pretind că mujahedinii au doborât avionul.
Azi dimineata am auzit la stiri ca polonezii vor sa faca propria ancheta.
Dupa o saptamana?
Depinde ce tip de anchetă. Nu ar fi târziu pentru unele chestiuni.
Tot sunt curios de două chestii: -ce imagini au surprins sateliţii din zona (dacă erau) şi
-ce numiri va face preşedintele interimar Komorowski (guvernatorul Băncii Naţionale publicase cu câteva zile mai înainte un articol în Financial Times în care îndemna să nu se grăbeasca trecerea la euro - Polonia a avut creştere economica netă anul trecut, cca 3%).
Vad ca si la noi ieri si azi am auzit c-o lasam mai moale cu trecerea la euro.
Pentru speculatiile care se fac la dobanzi si preturi -trecerea ar fi benefica ( dobanda in Occident este de 3-4% iar la noi de 20%-iti dai seama cat se castiga nemuncit numai din aceasta diferenta).
Pentru nazbatia cu Statele Unite Europene -trecerea ar fi un dezastru
Am auzit că "grupul Bilderberg a decis" să se prelungească criza mondială cu un an.
Pai a aparut si Soros ieri-azi ca o mafalda ca vine o noua criza.
Circul dracului..
Mi s-a acrit .Parca suntem toti intr-o cusca si suntem luati de prosti
erau totusi si alte metode mai accesibile, de a discredita guvernul polonez decat a inscena un "accident"...opiniunea mea...
te astept la mine pe blog unde discutam cum Eruptia vulcanului Eyjafjallajokull din Islanda a blocat traficul aerian al multor tzari din Europa de Nord si Vestica
Păi tocmai, se pare că "încurcătura" ar ajuta guvernul polonez. Pe termen scurt, ce-i drept.
Să urmărim evoluţia scandalului.
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